View Thread | Post Response | Return to Index | Read Prev Msg | Read Next Msg |
Re: important message from iceland
Posted By: MACK! In Response To: important message
from iceland (hugleikur) Hi Thor (is it OK if I address you as Thor for short? It sounds very cool to
call someone that when it is part of there real name First, Great story! I am familiar with the Burroughs cut up poems and that Bowie uses this method
to write song lyrics. I do this myself. But mostly by cutting up different
pieces of my own words from different things I'm done and mixing them together.
Your cutups are used "out of context" in that But I actually think this is part of the charm of what you did. I love the
fact that it still works as it was originally intended as POV of the character,
while standing on its own as a serious and valid POEM.
I think the fact that you cut it up from my and Smith's DD words add an extra
layer of interest to the poem, as it works in both worlds.
If it were up to me, I would suggest that you use the poem but credit it as
cut ups from our DD words. So, as much as I can give it, you would have my blessing crediting it as a
cutup of our DD words.
The only variable in that plan is that Marvel Comics owns the copyright to
Daredevil and the words the Kevin and I wrote when we worked on it. I don't
exactly know how that would figure in to what you are doing but I thought that I
should remind you of that. I would think that they might like the press in the
newspaper story, but I actually have no idea what their policies are in
something like this.
If you really want to make sure, you could ask Joe Quesada.
: Dear David Mack
: Ok, here’s the thing.
: My Name is Thorarinn Hugleikur Dagsson and I live in : I thought it might be interesting to see how people would : here is the poem: Hole
: When I was a child : As it turns out the poem got quite a responce. A week ago : After carefully reading and discussing your poem, our : and that’s not all . . . : The letter goes on and on about how much of an honor it : Then I thought: "I can’t go on with this! These : What I did, however, was more of an experiment. I am an : I guess what I’m looking for is some sort of a permission : However, if you give me your blessings, I will not take : Wating for a reply, : Email: buddybradley@hotmail.com
: Address: Tryggvagata 4B : P.S. I also sent this to Kevin Smith
Date: MON, 5/7/01, 4:19
p.m.
)
Thanks for sharing it with us. The whole thing was a
very interesting idea, and I actually enjoyed the way that you put the lines
together. It gave the lines a sort of new life to see them whithout the images
and in the form of a poem that no one would suspect was from a superhero comic.
Very nice how you seamlessly connected the lines from my opening DD pages with 2
lines from Kevin Smith. It actually gave me a new perrspective when reading it.
they are words from a comic
presented in the format and context of a poem, but the poem is not really "out
of context" from the point that the words and ideas are from the same title and
exact point of view of the character they originally described. In fact they are
still very much in keeping with the original persective of that character.
I also love the idea that the newspaper wants to
run a story on it and that you may win an award for it.
: Reykjavik,
Iceland. I have a confession to make. About
: a month ago I stumbled into
something called
: Poetry.com. It’s a website dedicated to amateur
:
poetry. Anyone can write their own poem into a contest
: and have the chance
of winning some money. Now I
: thought it might be fun to make a poem out of
: comic-book dialogue to see if it would be taken
: seriously. I was
rereading the new Daredevil series at
: the time and I put together a "poem"
out of
: dialogue originally written by Mr. Kevin Smith and Mr.
: David
Mack.
: react to a
text like this when not knowing it is
: actually from a comic-book.
: I lost my sight
: thanks largely to a good
deed.
: Somehow I cross the line
: a blurring one
: where the
scents, echoes and chills
: come less from outside my head
: and more
from inside it.
: I’ve been blind since I was a child
: and as a result
: I’ve never actually seen the woman who
: cried herself to sleep in my
bed last night.
: I dreamt that a picture of her fell down
: and broke
into pieces.
: But they are puzzle pieces.
: I’m trying to put them
together
: except that I’m drowning
: and they float to the top.
:
They are parts
: of a hole.
: I got this
letter from Poetry.com: "Dear
: Thorarinn
: selection
Committee has certified your poem as a
: semi-finalist in our International
Open Poetry
: Contest. Your poem will automatically be entered into
:
the final competition held in May 2001. As a
: semi-finalist, you now have
an excellent chance of
: winning one of 104 cash or gift prizes—including
the
: $1,000.00 Grand prize. You may even win the $
: 10,000.00 Annual
Grand Prize! We wish you the best of
: luck as you compete for these prizes
in the coming
: weeks.
: In celebration of the unique talaent that
you have
: displayed, we also wish to puplish your in what
: promises to
be one of the most highly sought after
: collections of poetry we have ever
published, The
: Silence Within."
: is for me to
chosen for something lik this. And whil
: reading it, I couldn’t stop
lauching.
: aren’t even my
words!". Now, I don’t have many
: principles, but I don’t want to be a
plagiarist.
: Allthough, I could get away with this, because
: basically
it’s just something called cut-up poetry. An
: approach to the form in which
written text is taken
: out of context and put together as a poem. David
Bowie
: and William Burroughs are among the ones who have done
: this
before.
: art student
and I usually learn by testing all sorts
: of things, and the seeing what
happens. I never
: expected this to go this far. I hope you aren’t mad or
: anything, but I’d understand if you were.
: or a
blessing. If you wan’t me to stop this from
: happening, I will. If you want
me to put your names
: above the poem, I will. If it wins and you want the
: award money, I will send it to you. Because I, as an
: artist
understand if your work is personal to you. And
: I don’t want to hurt
anybody.
: the credits.
I have told the biggest newspaper in
: Iceland about this and they will
print the whole true
: story if something happens. And you can also tell
: people about this in the Daredevil letterpage or
: something. After
all, a Daredevil-poem acknowledged by
: a proffesional comittee as a piece
of art is kinda
: funny.
: Thorarinn Hugleikur Dagsson.
: 101 Reykjavík
: ICELAND
View Thread | Post Response | Return to Index | Read Prev Msg | Read Next Msg |