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PostPosted: Jan 26, 2005 7:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Do you use photo reference? Reply with quote

I really need to go to some of these cons one day if not for the cheer debauchery alone!
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PostPosted: Jan 26, 2005 7:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Do you use photo reference? Reply with quote

Taki Soma wrote:
Alex(sadly)Maleev wrote:
Taki Soma wrote:
Alex(sadly)Maleev wrote:
Taki Soma wrote:
Alex(sadly)Maleev wrote:
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You'd have to know about the thread Bendis put up a few months back about Alex and David Mack sitting on his couch to get the joke of this I guess. Razz

RC


I see. Well, I'm not nearly as cute as Mack, trust me....


bummer.
are you bummed because he mentioned mack instead of you?


Nope. I know I'm cute, I don't need Lark to tell me. Very Happy
ok. I actually don't really know what you look like anyway. every photo i've seen of you, you have sunglasses on or something.

but if you're right, how come girls are ga ga for mack instead of you? Twisted Evil


I don't draw a girly book. At cons I don't sit with a huge banner over my head saying "come and get me baby"! I'm usually in a corner quietly making some drinking money. Very Happy


I musta missed that banner.

well, I like your tactic. usually, I sit WITH my drinks, in a corner... shivering and shouting obscenities


This is true, I saw it with my own eyes in Dallas a the sports bar.
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PostPosted: Jan 26, 2005 8:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Do you use photo reference? Reply with quote

Kody wrote:
Taki Soma wrote:
Alex(sadly)Maleev wrote:
Taki Soma wrote:
Alex(sadly)Maleev wrote:
Taki Soma wrote:
Alex(sadly)Maleev wrote:
Michael Lark wrote:
RangerChic wrote:


You'd have to know about the thread Bendis put up a few months back about Alex and David Mack sitting on his couch to get the joke of this I guess. Razz

RC


I see. Well, I'm not nearly as cute as Mack, trust me....


bummer.
are you bummed because he mentioned mack instead of you?


Nope. I know I'm cute, I don't need Lark to tell me. Very Happy
ok. I actually don't really know what you look like anyway. every photo i've seen of you, you have sunglasses on or something.

but if you're right, how come girls are ga ga for mack instead of you? Twisted Evil


I don't draw a girly book. At cons I don't sit with a huge banner over my head saying "come and get me baby"! I'm usually in a corner quietly making some drinking money. Very Happy


I musta missed that banner.

well, I like your tactic. usually, I sit WITH my drinks, in a corner... shivering and shouting obscenities


This is true, I saw it with my own eyes in Dallas a the sports bar.
I hope my projectile vomit didn't reach you as I shouted through my gurgles. Wink
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PostPosted: Jan 26, 2005 8:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Do you use photo reference? Reply with quote

On the Photo reference question. do you ever use DVDs and pause for facial acting?

'Cause sometimes the expressions and 'acting' are very reminiscent of performances and/or actors which seem very familiar, if not readily identifiable.
(Sometimes they do seem identifiable, Maleev, if you weren't using Duval as a reference for the last DD run, then I'm losing it, not that I'm complaining, he looks great!)
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PostPosted: Jan 26, 2005 8:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Do you use photo reference? Reply with quote

That or Poser.
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PostPosted: Jan 26, 2005 8:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Do you use photo reference? Reply with quote

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That or Poser.


Nah, I never use that stuff. Especially stuff like Poser. Too stiff. And the DVD thing would take too long to capture just what I'm looking for.

Remember, the sketch ALWAYS comes first, the basic storytelling and composition. Everything else must serve that. If I used a DVD, then I'd have to alter my choice of camera angles to match what I can find on the DVD. That's why I just shoot my own ugly self. I couldn't act to save my life, but at least I can get down what I want.
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PostPosted: Jan 26, 2005 9:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Do you use photo reference? Reply with quote

Michael Lark wrote:
Two Fisted Nate wrote:
That or Poser.


Nah, I never use that stuff. Especially stuff like Poser. Too stiff. And the DVD thing would take too long to capture just what I'm looking for.

Remember, the sketch ALWAYS comes first, the basic storytelling and composition. Everything else must serve that. If I used a DVD, then I'd have to alter my choice of camera angles to match what I can find on the DVD. That's why I just shoot my own ugly self. I couldn't act to save my life, but at least I can get down what I want.

do you have a timer on your camera? a lot of people don't have that. luckily, I do. how do you take pics of yourself from above? you know, extreme overhead or something? any tricks?
I also use my video cam, webcam to capture myself in motion and pause at the right moment for what I want.
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PostPosted: Jan 26, 2005 9:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Do you use photo reference? Reply with quote

hell yeah i use photo reference! i usually use my digital camera. sometimes i use google but only for images not related to the story (such as pin-ups or first character sketches) and things such as weapons, cars and sometimes clothes.
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PostPosted: Jan 26, 2005 10:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Do you use photo reference? Reply with quote

Taki Soma wrote:

do you have a timer on your camera? a lot of people don't have that. luckily, I do. how do you take pics of yourself from above? you know, extreme overhead or something? any tricks?
I also use my video cam, webcam to capture myself in motion and pause at the right moment for what I want.


Yeah, a timer. I made sure to buy one with a timer.

I have a tripod, of course, and put it on a table or something for overhead shots. Unfortunately my house has really low ceilings, so sometimes I have to go outside to do those, which involves getting out a ladder, etc., and is a real pain, so you may notice that I don't do those very often...

The webcam is a great idea!
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PostPosted: Jan 26, 2005 10:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Do you use photo reference? Reply with quote

Michael Lark wrote:
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David Mack:



RC Smile


OUCH! You know, I don't think I slept at all that entire weekend that picture was taken, plus it's a horrible picture. Good work!

David Mack has a pretty big "cake", huh?


Ha!
I haven't seen that photo before.
The folks at the Pittsburgh Comicon presented me with that cake at their show in April.
It was super nice of them.
I was doing a panel and then they had a little birthday celibration for Kabuki's ten year anniversary and came in with that cake!

So they brought it to my table and I cut the cake and served it to all the Kabuki readers who came to to the table.

And Mike, I thought that photo of you was cute!

And Maleev is cute too.
He's my favorite Bulgarian.
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You guys are really going to like each other.
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PostPosted: Jan 26, 2005 10:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Do you use photo reference? Reply with quote

I remember the cake - I was sitting right next to you and Andy. I also remember that you didn't offer me any. Mad

And yeah, Alex is dreamy.
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PostPosted: Jan 26, 2005 10:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Do you use photo reference? Reply with quote

for people using web cams, i have this...

http://www.strangesolutions.com/flexstanddetails.html

neat little stand that bends and let's you position the camera pretty much anywhere you want.
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PostPosted: Jan 26, 2005 10:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Do you use photo reference? Reply with quote

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I hate drawing cars.


Now we know why Bendis shelved the DareDevil Transformers Gala Crossover arc.
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PostPosted: Jan 26, 2005 10:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Do you use photo reference? Reply with quote

Michael Lark wrote:
Two Fisted Nate wrote:
That or Poser.


Nah, I never use that stuff. Especially stuff like Poser. Too stiff. And the DVD thing would take too long to capture just what I'm looking for.

Remember, the sketch ALWAYS comes first, the basic storytelling and composition. Everything else must serve that. If I used a DVD, then I'd have to alter my choice of camera angles to match what I can find on the DVD. That's why I just shoot my own ugly self. I couldn't act to save my life, but at least I can get down what I want.


I do my whole comic with Poser. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Jan 26, 2005 10:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Do you use photo reference? Reply with quote

I didn't use photo refernce for my first sequential page and didn't like it that much after while because of it. So for the second page I did (that transformation sequence for those who remember) I did take photos of myself with my digital camera. It was so much more fun to be able to actually put in the detail. So I will use it whenever I can from now on. I also do it for the regular sketching of course.
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