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BlueNote27 Enthusiast

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Posted: Jan 16, 2005 2:07 am Post subject: Re: New to Kabuki? Questions on story or where to start? Q&a |
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When I was just "re"getting back into comics, your "Echo" run on Daredevil was one of the factors that solidified my commitment to comics as an art form. I was floored. In fact, I used that exact run to get my friend into comics, and she's now an addict as well.
Because of that, I've started to get into Kabuki, but am a little lost about where to start. I can't find the first trade anywhere! I hopped on Icon #1, but was a little lost (even though I loved it). Is there another good jumping on point other than the first trade? _________________ "There's no such thing as happiness, only nostalgia..."
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Goodman Veteran

Joined: 14 Apr 2004 Posts: 4194 Location: Clearwater, FL
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Posted: Jan 16, 2005 3:36 am Post subject: Re: New to Kabuki? Questions on story or where to start? Q&a |
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I moved. A girl I went out with, but couldn't date because she is Indian (her parents won't let her date non Indians) lives near me. Tonight she came over. She left with Skin Deep and Metamorphosis (she asked to take them) and gave me a sweet hug. Thank you. _________________
Comic Buyer's Guide wrote: | Despite its warts, this book shows that Goodman's an ever improving writer worth keeping an eye on. |
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smashtor Veteran

Joined: 16 Oct 2003 Posts: 2608 Location: AMHERST MASS
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Posted: Jan 16, 2005 4:05 am Post subject: Re: New to Kabuki? Questions on story or where to start? Q&a |
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i got a question.
after reading kabuki circle of blood and i think the foreward or the epilogue to it where some guy talks abotu how awesome kabuki is.... the guy mentioned that it is kind of like the wizard of oz... i think that is what he said.. btu anyway, i was wondering if that was what you intended or if that just happens to work with it....?
i dont know if this question makes sense because hte words arent neccesarily comign to me.... _________________
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MACK! Senior Member
Joined: 27 Sep 2003 Posts: 1302
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Posted: Jan 16, 2005 8:56 am Post subject: Re: New to Kabuki? Questions on story or where to start? Q&a |
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The beggar wrote: | I would like to know how you came on the idea with the vet |
For those not in the know: The veterinarian character in #2 of the new Icon series.
Which idea to you mean?
Her work as a Vet?
Her work as a forger?
Her progression as an artist and those philosophies?
Or her work as prosthetics?
Her connection to Akemi?
Or to have a vet in the story at all?
Or anything else?
At the end of Metamorphosis when Akemi gave Kabuki a note to lead her to a place where she would get help (medical, and forged papers, etc.), I had fun coming up with what kind of character that would be able to do this. What her connection with Akemi was, her approach to life, etc.
When I was a kid, my father used to live in the basement of an animal clinic (actually called LITTLE FRIENDS ANIMAL CLINIC like in the story).
He used to assist the veterinarian, and my little brother and I would play with the animals, and we learned a lot from the animal clinic.
I also have some books on bio-mechanics, etc, as my father has been learning about this lately in his relationship with prosthetics.
And I put in some ideas and philosophies about art. About what is original. What is forgery. When does one become the other.
And some life philosphies of art as action. Life as art. Being and doing being the real art as opposed to having or getting. The action of something rather than the visual of it. Art and life as a verb istead of a noun.
And the children's book connection with "Animal Doctor" and "The Shy Creatures" also tied in with this.
And with Kabuki's past, and with Akemi's philosphies and mysterious past.
It just sort of organically came together very quickly in the process writing the story. |
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MACK! Senior Member
Joined: 27 Sep 2003 Posts: 1302
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Posted: Jan 16, 2005 9:03 am Post subject: Re: New to Kabuki? Questions on story or where to start? Q&a |
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Peter Bach wrote: | I don't have a question but I did want to say that I finally entered the world of Kabuki a few months back. i got a really good deal on the trades for Vol. 2, 4 and 6 and picked them all up at the same time and was blown away. Vol. 4 is my favourite so far. I loved everything about that story. I hope to grab the trades that I'm missing soon and get a complete collection. So I just wanted to say thanks for a really enjoyable reading experience, for pushing the bounds of the medium and for curing polio. That was really cool of you.  |
Thank you very much!
I'm glad to hear you started it.
If you liked volume 4 (SKin DeeP), you are really going to love volume 5 (Metamorphosis) and the new current series.
Meta continues right where Skin Deep leaves off. It really delivers all the payoffs that Skin Deep only sets up.
The Akemi character, etc.
Meta is the best example of my work in comics so far in a completed collected finished story as a writer and an artist.
And the current Icon story continues right where that leaves off. And you'll see that the art in those 3 stories has a kind of continuity and evolution of style that keeps those stories together as one big story.
And I'd also suggest volume one, just to get the origin and see the action story that some of these other books hint at.
Please continue to let me know what you think of the other books!
Best,
David |
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MACK! Senior Member
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Posted: Jan 16, 2005 9:09 am Post subject: Re: New to Kabuki? Questions on story or where to start? Q&a |
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Meteornotes wrote: | Can someone list the available trades so I can see which ones I'm missing?
Circle Of Blood is still one of my all time favorite pieces of comic work, and was one of the most popular reviewed items on my old website (Pixel Planet). I really need to start reading comics again...
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Vol 1 Circle of Blood 172pgs
Vol 2 Dreams 128p
Vol 3 Masks of the Noh 128p
Vol 4 Skin Deep 128p
Vol 5 Metamorphosis 288p
Vol 6 Scarab 252p
The new series from Icon "The ALchemy" will be vol 7. Three issues of it out so far. |
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MACK! Senior Member
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Posted: Jan 16, 2005 9:12 am Post subject: Re: New to Kabuki? Questions on story or where to start? Q&a |
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GavBrown wrote: | I'll be reading the first few issues of the Icon line very soon. Or should I try and pick up the trades and start from the very beginning? |
As long as you start one way or another is the most important thing!
With either one you start with, I think it will make you want to read the others.
Each of the stories are designed to stand on their own, even though they all fit in continuity and build on each other.
If you prefer reading in complete chronological order, you can start with the trades.
Either way, please let me know what you think!
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MACK! Senior Member
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Posted: Jan 16, 2005 9:14 am Post subject: Re: New to Kabuki? Questions on story or where to start? Q&a |
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Goodman wrote: | What's Akemi's cell phone #? |
It's encrypted in the letters collumn of the next issue. |
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MACK! Senior Member
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Posted: Jan 16, 2005 9:16 am Post subject: Re: New to Kabuki? Questions on story or where to start? Q&a |
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Ashton wrote: | I just picked up the Alchemy #1-#3 and plan to read them this weekend. Couldn't resist that beautiful art any longer.
and I am a first time reader to Kabuki. |
Thanks for picking it up!
I appreciate you taking the innitiative to try it.
Please post to let me know what you think. |
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MACK! Senior Member
Joined: 27 Sep 2003 Posts: 1302
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Posted: Jan 16, 2005 9:20 am Post subject: Re: New to Kabuki? Questions on story or where to start? Q&a |
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Medical Popcorn wrote: | So would you still recommend reading your books in chrono. order or would you recommend reading them diffenerently now? |
Thanks for asking.
Just what I said to GavBrown above.
If you start them, I think it will make you want to get all of them anyway.
So you can start anywhere, but you may as well read it in order.
The 6 volumes and the new series span ten years of work for me, but you can read them all at once without having to wait the 2 months between each issue like everyone else did!
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MACK! Senior Member
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Posted: Jan 16, 2005 9:23 am Post subject: Re: New to Kabuki? Questions on story or where to start? Q&a |
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Macmanyosi wrote: | You handed Kabuki vol 1 in for your writing thesis, according to the book. How'd you do? |
I got an A for that class!
400 level class, independant study in writing.
Dr. Margo Jang.
I did the first volume in school and turned in the published format of it for my writing thesis. |
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MACK! Senior Member
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Posted: Jan 16, 2005 9:26 am Post subject: Re: New to Kabuki? Questions on story or where to start? Q&a |
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B-Rose wrote: | will you send me free copies of each trade?  |
No, but if you see me at a convention, I'll give you a really good deal on all of them.
Or just order from davidmack.net
or nohgirl@yahoo.com and make your best offer for the entire set and we'll do our best to accomodate it. |
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innocentboy Veteran

Joined: 11 Aug 2003 Posts: 4107 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Jan 16, 2005 9:30 am Post subject: Re: New to Kabuki? Questions on story or where to start? Q&a |
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MACK! wrote: | B-Rose wrote: | will you send me free copies of each trade?  |
No, but if you see me at a convention, I'll give you a really good deal on all of them.
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it's true! i can vouch for that on meeting Mack at the Toronto Con, and as far as i can remember to the best of my ability right now, Who Cares can say the same!
God bless,
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MACK! Senior Member
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Posted: Jan 16, 2005 9:30 am Post subject: Re: New to Kabuki? Questions on story or where to start? Q&a |
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MyWifeSaidItWasOK wrote: | I have not picked up Kabuki because I'm concerned that it is just not for me. This concern is based on reading your Daredevil arc about the American Indian woman. The story was fine, but I found having to read upside down, turning the page to read text in spirals and getting used to handwriting that changes sizes often was really tough on my eyes. I really like your artwork but the text is what is preventing me from reading your other stuff. |
I do a different writing style, art style, and pacing style for each of the volumes.
I'd recomend vol 1 Circle of Blood as a very straightforward story telling style that you would probably like.
Also volume 3 Masks of the Noh (even has Oeming art), and Volume 6 Scarab is a pretty straight forward crime story in urban Japan. |
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Posted: Jan 16, 2005 9:32 am Post subject: Re: New to Kabuki? Questions on story or where to start? Q&a |
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yea, he gives really good deals and stuff, but everyone should spend cover price, cause it's every penny, plus tax
I'm really enjoying the current trade I'm on, 'metamorphosis' _________________
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