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PostPosted: Nov 10, 2004 2:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Creator/ fan horror stories from Cons Reply with quote

Eddy Newell wrote:
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Unless somebody is throwing meat at you, try to give those guys and gals in artist alley a break. They most likely really need the sale.


hmmmm. Never thought of throwing meat at people.

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Saul, it seems Bendis is right about you. Shocked


About what? That I am a handsome motherfucker?

cause I am Wink

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PostPosted: Nov 10, 2004 2:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Creator/ fan horror stories from Cons Reply with quote

Eddy Newell wrote:
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I don't really have any bad stories about creators, only dealers.
But I have met some of the nicest creators that really were appreciative like Bendis, Mack, Stuart Sayger, Joe Q, And Brian Azzerello.
The only bad stuff is when a few people in Artist alley try wayyy to hard to sell me a book. Come on, you are not a cadillac dealer, don't act like one.



Unless somebody is throwing meat at you, try to give those guys and gals in artist alley a break. They most likely really need the sale.


Oh no, don't get me wrong, I like the stuff coming out of there, but when a certain indy guy comes out from behind his booth and blocks my way and puts his hand on me....that's pushing it. Besides the fact I was dead broke by that time and he just would not listen.
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PostPosted: Nov 10, 2004 2:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Creator/ fan horror stories from Cons Reply with quote

the last ronin wrote:
Eddy Newell wrote:
the last ronin wrote:
I don't really have any bad stories about creators, only dealers.
But I have met some of the nicest creators that really were appreciative like Bendis, Mack, Stuart Sayger, Joe Q, And Brian Azzerello.
The only bad stuff is when a few people in Artist alley try wayyy to hard to sell me a book. Come on, you are not a cadillac dealer, don't act like one.



Unless somebody is throwing meat at you, try to give those guys and gals in artist alley a break. They most likely really need the sale.


Oh no, don't get me wrong, I like the stuff coming out of there, but when a certain indy guy comes out from behind his booth and blocks my way and puts his hand on me....that's pushing it. Besides the fact I was dead broke by that time and he just would not listen.


Maybe this certain indy guy thought you were cute.
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PostPosted: Nov 10, 2004 2:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Creator/ fan horror stories from Cons Reply with quote

www.ssscomics.com wrote:
Eddy Newell wrote:
www.ssscomics.com wrote:
Eddy Newell wrote:

Unless somebody is throwing meat at you, try to give those guys and gals in artist alley a break. They most likely really need the sale.


hmmmm. Never thought of throwing meat at people.

saul
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Saul, it seems Bendis is right about you. Shocked


About what? That I am a handsome motherfucker?

cause I am Wink

saul


Handsome mo--? You stay the hell away from my mother.
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PostPosted: Nov 10, 2004 2:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Creator/ fan horror stories from Cons Reply with quote

Lord Retail wrote:
Eddy Newell wrote:
the last ronin wrote:
I don't really have any bad stories about creators, only dealers.
But I have met some of the nicest creators that really were appreciative like Bendis, Mack, Stuart Sayger, Joe Q, And Brian Azzerello.
The only bad stuff is when a few people in Artist alley try wayyy to hard to sell me a book. Come on, you are not a cadillac dealer, don't act like one.



Unless somebody is throwing meat at you, try to give those guys and gals in artist alley a break. They most likely really need the sale.


There's ways to sell without being a carnival barker or a car salesman. I want to be convinced to buy something, but I want someone to give me a real, solid pitch though.


Good point, but you can't sell something if nobody know it exists. First you have to get their attention. I guess some guys get a little too desperate.
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PostPosted: Nov 10, 2004 2:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Creator/ fan horror stories from Cons Reply with quote

Eddy Newell wrote:
Lord Retail wrote:
Eddy Newell wrote:
the last ronin wrote:
I don't really have any bad stories about creators, only dealers.
But I have met some of the nicest creators that really were appreciative like Bendis, Mack, Stuart Sayger, Joe Q, And Brian Azzerello.
The only bad stuff is when a few people in Artist alley try wayyy to hard to sell me a book. Come on, you are not a cadillac dealer, don't act like one.



Unless somebody is throwing meat at you, try to give those guys and gals in artist alley a break. They most likely really need the sale.


There's ways to sell without being a carnival barker or a car salesman. I want to be convinced to buy something, but I want someone to give me a real, solid pitch though.


Good point, but you can't sell something if nobody know it exists. First you have to get their attention. I guess some guys get a little too desperate.


People are pre-programmed to ignore conventional ways of getting attention. Anything involving yelling or generic hand outs isn't as effective. Some new tactics have to evolve. Perhaps something with free doughnuts...
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PostPosted: Nov 10, 2004 3:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Creator/ fan horror stories from Cons Reply with quote

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Just did a con in Cleveland with Marv Wolfman and Len Wein...Coolest guys ever, man. Just kind and friendly and forthcoming and big ol' geeks who played scrabble with my partner all weekend. GREAT guys.

Bendis and Oeming are always cool...Mark Wheatley is wuite friendly...Evan Dorkin's cool...This past Pittcon I sat in the bar with Jimmy Tucci, Amanda Conner, John Romita Jr, Adam Hughes, and a couple of others and it was one of the best times I've ever had...

(Am I name-dropping?)

WORST? James O'Barr, hands down. And it wasn't the way he treated ME, because I just walked up, got a sig, and left. but the way he treated some of the other fans was awful. I mean, sure, it must get a bit annoying having hundreds of goth-kids tell you how much your work meant to them but YOUR WORK MEANT SOMETHING TO THEM...be gracious and smile and say thank you. These people are your livelihood.


O'Barr was in Dallas... never advertised that he was gonna be there or anything... never smiled, never looked like he wanted to be there at all...

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PostPosted: Nov 10, 2004 3:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Creator/ fan horror stories from Cons Reply with quote

I'll note some folks here who aren't "close pals" first:

Mark Waid was real nice when I met him a few years back. Took the time to talk about writing and what have you, helping out a guy just getting into the business.

I dig talking to cool publishers and editors who are just BOMBARDED with people pitching them, kissing their ass and generally making nuisances of themselves, and yet they'll be cool as anything when you're chatting with them in the bar after a hard day at the con, especially when you're pitching them, kissing their ass and generally making a nuisance of yourself. Folks of note: Bob Schreck, Joe Quesada, Chris Ryall, Erik Larsen, Mark Powers and though I've only met them the one time really, Jamie Rich and Larry Young.

Now as far as people I know a little better, there's nothing better than shooting the shit with Carla McNeil and Jeff Parker. Unless you're shooting the shit with Tom and Lily Beland, masters of the perpetual smile and ninja death kung fu double attack.

Oh, and that Dan Taylor is a dick. After, like fifteen beers he's all "I invented the concept of bars and comics! You should all WORSHIP me and buy me Bass! Bow down before my HERO HAPPY HOUR kingdom, peon!"
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PostPosted: Nov 10, 2004 3:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Creator/ fan horror stories from Cons Reply with quote

Lord Retail wrote:
Eddy Newell wrote:
Lord Retail wrote:
Eddy Newell wrote:
the last ronin wrote:
I don't really have any bad stories about creators, only dealers.
But I have met some of the nicest creators that really were appreciative like Bendis, Mack, Stuart Sayger, Joe Q, And Brian Azzerello.
The only bad stuff is when a few people in Artist alley try wayyy to hard to sell me a book. Come on, you are not a cadillac dealer, don't act like one.



Unless somebody is throwing meat at you, try to give those guys and gals in artist alley a break. They most likely really need the sale.


There's ways to sell without being a carnival barker or a car salesman. I want to be convinced to buy something, but I want someone to give me a real, solid pitch though.


Good point, but you can't sell something if nobody know it exists. First you have to get their attention. I guess some guys get a little too desperate.


People are pre-programmed to ignore conventional ways of getting attention. Anything involving yelling or generic hand outs isn't as effective. Some new tactics have to evolve. Perhaps something with free doughnuts...


Free doughnuts is good. If only Mrs. Newell would adopt this method...
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PostPosted: Nov 10, 2004 3:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Creator/ fan horror stories from Cons Reply with quote

neil kleid wrote:
I'll note some folks here who aren't "close pals" first:

Mark Waid was real nice when I met him a few years back. Took the time to talk about writing and what have you, helping out a guy just getting into the business.

I dig talking to cool publishers and editors who are just BOMBARDED with people pitching them, kissing their ass and generally making nuisances of themselves, and yet they'll be cool as anything when you're chatting with them in the bar after a hard day at the con, especially when you're pitching them, kissing their ass and generally making a nuisance of yourself. Folks of note: Bob Schreck, Joe Quesada, Chris Ryall, Erik Larsen, Mark Powers and though I've only met them the one time really, Jamie Rich and Larry Young.

Now as far as people I know a little better, there's nothing better than shooting the shit with Carla McNeil and Jeff Parker. Unless you're shooting the shit with Tom and Lily Beland, masters of the perpetual smile and ninja death kung fu double attack.

Oh, and that Dan Taylor is a dick. After, like fifteen beers he's all "I invented the concept of bars and comics! You should all WORSHIP me and buy me Bass! Bow down before my HERO HAPPY HOUR kingdom, peon!"


I hope this happen at Mid Ohio!!!!

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PostPosted: Nov 10, 2004 7:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Creator/ fan horror stories from Cons Reply with quote

I met Erik Larsen when I lived in Toledo, OH. He was at the store I went to. He was signing comics, and doing sketches for people who signed up (paid) to get them. He talked to everyone while he was doing what he was doing. He even had some of his own characters there for people to see. He did a Hulk for me (which is still up in my office today). He was a really nice guy and took time to talk to everyone that came to see him.
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PostPosted: Nov 10, 2004 8:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Creator/ fan horror stories from Cons Reply with quote

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WORST? James O'Barr, hands down. And it wasn't the way he treated ME, because I just walked up, got a sig, and left. but the way he treated some of the other fans was awful. I mean, sure, it must get a bit annoying having hundreds of goth-kids tell you how much your work meant to them but YOUR WORK MEANT SOMETHING TO THEM...be gracious and smile and say thank you. These people are your livelihood.



That was my exact experience with James O'Barr. I saw him at a table, no one around and went up to get a sketch and a copy of The Crow signed. I didn't gush or anything, but I told him that The Crow meant a lot to me when I was growing up. His reply: "Yeah."
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PostPosted: Nov 10, 2004 8:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Creator/ fan horror stories from Cons Reply with quote

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Seriously I have met a BUNCH of creators and have onlyhad one bad experience.

Unfortunatly it was a real bad experience.

I am not going to post who but it is someone BIG and I have never seen him hang around here.

Oh, for crying out loud you CAN'T leave it at that! Mad

Tell us about the experience without telling us who it involves! You can do that, can't you! Confused If Stan Lee touched you...down there...just tell us that some guy/girl touched you. Simple! If Jack Kirby gave you a Cleveland steamer, you don't have to tell us it was actually him! Confused Confused

But come on, tell us what happened or I will never buy any of your books, ever! Razz
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PostPosted: Nov 10, 2004 8:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Creator/ fan horror stories from Cons Reply with quote

the last ronin wrote:
Eddy Newell wrote:
the last ronin wrote:
I don't really have any bad stories about creators, only dealers.
But I have met some of the nicest creators that really were appreciative like Bendis, Mack, Stuart Sayger, Joe Q, And Brian Azzerello.
The only bad stuff is when a few people in Artist alley try wayyy to hard to sell me a book. Come on, you are not a cadillac dealer, don't act like one.



Unless somebody is throwing meat at you, try to give those guys and gals in artist alley a break. They most likely really need the sale.


Oh no, don't get me wrong, I like the stuff coming out of there, but when a certain indy guy comes out from behind his booth and blocks my way and puts his hand on me....that's pushing it. Besides the fact I was dead broke by that time and he just would not listen.



Sorry for putting my hands on you Smile
I'll act better next time!
I kid Smile

Hey thanks all for mentioning me! In mostly good ways! Even though Eddy Newell called me a mutant freak (I'm not sure if that was a compliment or not Smile

I really enjoy the cons.
I try to be all ready for them. but like Bendis said, usually our bedtime is at the time of day the con starts, and it may take a day for me to catch up to the new schedule.

So If we ever spaz out give us the benifit of the doubt Smile
Usually when I spaz out people still seem to like it Smile
Or if you ever feel like there is a misunderstanding, feel welcome to bring it up to me and I will do my best to make it right.

Usually everything seems to go great, but I never seem to have enough time to do sketches for everyone who wants it.

But some of these stories are funny Smile
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PostPosted: Nov 10, 2004 8:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Creator/ fan horror stories from Cons Reply with quote

Kensington wrote:
www.ssscomics.com wrote:
Seriously I have met a BUNCH of creators and have onlyhad one bad experience.

Unfortunatly it was a real bad experience.

I am not going to post who but it is someone BIG and I have never seen him hang around here.

Oh, for crying out loud you CAN'T leave it at that! Mad

Tell us about the experience without telling us who it involves! You can do that, can't you! Confused If Stan Lee touched you...down there...just tell us that some guy/girl touched you. Simple! If Jack Kirby gave you a Cleveland steamer, you don't have to tell us it was actually him! Confused Confused

But come on, tell us what happened or I will never buy any of your books, ever! Razz


Fine here goes.

At one of the first shows I ever had a table at I went to a panel (losing hundreds of dollars in sales Wink ) to listen to this writer speak and I wanted to pick his brain.

Much to his surprise there were only three people (myself included) at his panel and he was pissy about it. I asked a writing question and he gave me a really snarky almost insulting answer. I figured he was upset that no one showed up (cause he was the headline guest of the show) so I didn't take it personally

fast forward to San Diego last year and I see him and say hello and offer him my book (for free) and as I am leaving I mention that I was at his panel and even though no one was there I enjoyed it and he gave my book back and said "I remember you" and walked away.

When I saw him at this years SD I just ignored him

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