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PostPosted: Nov 10, 2003 9:20 pm    Post subject: Hey, i LIKED Daredevil #53 (SPOILERS) Reply with quote

wow. that was some good shit.

at first, it started out with that slow, recap mode that they all do, but then when she went to visit her old indian friend it started to pick up.

now, i remember when it first came out, everyone was like "what?! WOLVERINE?!!??!?!11// that's so lame. EVERYONE uses wolverine." but when i read it, i had forgotten all that stuff. so when i turned the last page i was like "holy crap. that's WICKED."

so yea. i really liked how wolverine is her "spirit guide." nice job Mack. completely outah left field.
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PostPosted: Nov 10, 2003 9:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Hey, i LIKED Daredevil #53 (SPOILERS) Reply with quote

thats cause MACK IS THE MAN!
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PostPosted: Nov 10, 2003 9:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Hey, i LIKED Daredevil #53 (SPOILERS) Reply with quote

This is the only issue of the storyline I've picked up, and I really liked it EXCEPT for the last page.. for some reason it just felt cheap, when I was expecting deep. Mainly, I guess, because I was expecting more of a resolution, not of the whole story arc but at least for Echo's VQ. And also I think I was expecting her vision to be more of an internal thing, and the sudden appearance of a popular X-Man sort of broke the reflective mood of the comic for me.
I am intrigued to see where her "spirit guide" will take her, though.
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PostPosted: Nov 10, 2003 9:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Hey, i LIKED Daredevil #53 (SPOILERS) Reply with quote

its high time for DD 54!
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PostPosted: Nov 10, 2003 10:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Hey, i LIKED Daredevil #53 (SPOILERS) Reply with quote

This better involve a child standing up and killing his third rate supervillain father or it will be.

*Crosses arms*

Worst arc ever.
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PostPosted: Nov 10, 2003 11:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Hey, i LIKED Daredevil #53 (SPOILERS) Reply with quote

No. No it's not. It's actually a really amazing arc.
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PostPosted: Nov 11, 2003 12:47 am    Post subject: Re: Hey, i LIKED Daredevil #53 (SPOILERS) Reply with quote

Thanks for the kind words!

All that talk about Wolverine in the issue was really annoying, and I can see how that talk cheapened the reading experience for some people. The whole point of the last page is that it is supposed to be a surprise.

It is not a crossover. Not any of the issues even mention the words "Wolverine" or "Logan" or "x-man". None of those words matter in this story. Because the story works for a completely casual reader in the context of the story and the context of the reality and the legendary structure of the vision quest.

In all my interviews about the series, I never mention the word "Wolverine" and I asked Marvel not to either. And asked them not to show any W art in the previews or anywhere so people don't get the wrong idea. The whole point is its a surprise. And it works even if you don't know who or what the fuck a Wolverine is.

The point is, this story is it's own thing and if you have to judge it on its own merit, not in any relation to other books that have used the character cheaply and dissapointed you.

So thanks for that. Smile

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PostPosted: Nov 11, 2003 12:50 am    Post subject: Re: Hey, i LIKED Daredevil #53 (SPOILERS) Reply with quote

is dd 54 coming out soon? seems like its been awhile since the last issue. maybe i'm just eager in my fanboy appreciation
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PostPosted: Nov 11, 2003 12:50 am    Post subject: Re: Hey, i LIKED Daredevil #53 (SPOILERS) Reply with quote

For what it's worth, I was surprised. And that made the issue all the more awesome.
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PostPosted: Nov 11, 2003 1:18 am    Post subject: Re: Hey, i LIKED Daredevil #53 (SPOILERS) Reply with quote

I hear DD 54 hits Nov 19 as planned. Still same monthly schedule. The first two issues coming out in 2 weeks does seem to make the other monthly issues seem to take longer.

As far as "left field", 54 is definitely that. I promise you that 54 and 55 used the characters in ways that have never been seen before. 55 is the payoff for 54 and the rest. I do understand that the series will read better all in one sitting, because that is the way I meant them to be. Each issue on it's own seems to make everyone say "WTF?". Issue 54 will I'm sure still have a big WTF factor. But 55 provides context for everything and grounds it and weaves it together.

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PostPosted: Nov 11, 2003 1:21 am    Post subject: Re: Hey, i LIKED Daredevil #53 (SPOILERS) Reply with quote

MACK! wrote:
I hear DD 54 hits Nov 19 as planned. Still same monthly schedule. The first two issues coming out in 2 weeks does seem to make the other monthly issues seem to take longer.

As far as "left field", 54 is definitely that. I promise you that 54 and 55 used the characters in ways that have never been seen before. 55 is the payoff for 54 and the rest. I do understand that the series will read better all in one sitting, because that is the way I meant them to be. Each issue on it's own seems to make everyone say "WTF?". Issue 54 will I'm sure still have a big WTF factor. But 55 provides context for everything and grounds it and weaves it together.

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Chill, I havent bought any of em cuz im waiting for the tpb, but it sounds cool!
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PostPosted: Nov 11, 2003 1:23 am    Post subject: Re: Hey, i LIKED Daredevil #53 (SPOILERS) Reply with quote

damn
it dosen't hit till the 19th

lets do the math

dad buys it on the 19th ships it the 20th or 21st factor in travel time, 1 dec is should have it Razz
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PostPosted: Nov 11, 2003 2:34 am    Post subject: Re: Hey, i LIKED Daredevil #53 (SPOILERS) Reply with quote

Funny you should mention that, Senor (sorry, i don't have that thing to go over my 'n')

I did the same thing. Remembered people complaining about Wolvie popping up in the title...

But, I only just piced up a month's worth of comics and was going through them, and the last page really did surprise me. Even though I had heard about it, i forgot about it---and I was happy i did. It isn't often that I am surprised in comics, and it made a certain kind of sense for him to guide Maya on her vision quest.
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PostPosted: Nov 11, 2003 2:49 am    Post subject: Re: Hey, i LIKED Daredevil #53 (SPOILERS) Reply with quote

I didn't mean to imply the misuse of a Marvel icon, and am interested to see what happens next, but the character does have all of those associations if the reader is even peripherally aware of Marvel comics (and the character hasn't yet had a chance to forge new associations through his actions). That's why I found it a little jarring, and also because in the context of the single issue, the mysterious figure's appearance didn't seem to fully resolve the vision quest, even if the characters' actions over the rest of the issues in the arc will. Not that that's a criticism, just sort of a personal drawback of only seeing one segment in the middle of the story. I do think Mack's work is amazing and can't wait to read the whole thing.
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PostPosted: Nov 11, 2003 2:50 am    Post subject: Re: Hey, i LIKED Daredevil #53 (SPOILERS) Reply with quote

It's too bad.. I find the art amazing but at the same time, I'm finding this arc unreadable because of the art.. Maybe I'll give it another shot.
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